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  1. So — been using this thing for something like a few months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so figured I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me the other day. I’m in the UK, generally do football and horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.

    How I found it was actually a bit daft — I couldn’t ever work out what an ew payout actually was once you get five places instead of three. I used to just eyeball it and get a shock. These days I stick my stake in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator is the bit I’m on daily — you drop in the price and your stake and it shows profit and total return with no faffing, fractions or decimals. There’s also the bigger stuff — trebles returns, a lucky 15, yankees, honestly that’s where I always lose track. If you want a look, it’s here how to calculate implied probability with decimal odds and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    One thing that actually made a difference were the geekier bits. They’ve got an odds-to-probability calculator that shows what margin’s baked in, and a kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly since full stakes are terrifying. Dutching calculator is handy too if I’m covering two or three runners.

    It’s not perfect mind. Its design feels pretty plain — not much polish, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s fine but the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. There’s nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — fine by me just flagging it.

    Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does the job. Anyone who still works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — saved me plenty of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

  2. OK — have been messing about with this thing for maybe a few months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d write something up since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. I’m based in the UK, mainly stick to footie and the horses, small stakes, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    How I found it was actually embarrassing — I couldn’t ever figure out what an ew payout would be when the place terms changed. I used to just eyeball it and get a shock. Now punch the numbers in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — type in the price and your stake and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the fiddly ones — acca and treble maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, which is where I always lose track. If you want a look, it’s over at betting accumulator — free, no signup.

    The thing that really made a difference is the nerdier bits. The probability thing that shows the overround, and a kelly criterion calculator — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutch tool is handy too for when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. Its interface looks pretty plain — zero flash, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On mobile it’s fine but the bigger tables are a squeeze. And no app, just the site — slight shame but worth saying.

    Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, not plastered in adverts, does the job. If anyone honestly works out returns on a calculator app, give it a go — saved me plenty of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

  3. OK — been using this thing for something like four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, reckon I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. I’m based in the UK, mostly stick to footie and the horses, nothing mad, so take it how you like.

    How I found it was genuinely pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever work out what an each way payout actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I used to just guess and moan when the payout landed. Now stick my stake in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I use most — you put in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles maths, lucky 15s, yankees, which is where I’d always lose track. Have a go yourself, it’s over at how to work out an each way bet — free, no signup.

    The thing that genuinely changed how I bet is the geekier bits. The odds-to-probability converter and it makes obvious the overround, and there’s the kelly staking calculator — I use half kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutch tool is handy too if I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. The layout feels pretty plain — not much polish, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it works though the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. There’s no app, just the site — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.

    Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, barely any ads, does what it says. Anyone who even now does the maths on paper, have a look — saved me a fair few “wait, that’s it?” moments.

  4. OK — been using this thing for something like four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so thought I’d write something up since someone asked me a few days back. Am UK based, mostly do football and horses, small stakes, for context.

    What got me on it was honestly embarrassing — I couldn’t ever figure out what an e/w payout would be with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I’d eyeball it and get a shock. These days I stick my stake in before I place anything, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I use most — type in stake and odds and you get returns with no faffing, fractions or decimals. It also handles the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where I always mess it up. If you want a look, it lives at bet exchange calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    What actually made a difference was the geekier extras. They’ve got an probability thing which shows you what margin’s baked in, and a kelly staking calculator — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is terrifying. The dutching one is handy too if I’m splitting a race.

    It’s not perfect mind. Its design is very functional, let’s say — no frills, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s fine although the lucky 63 breakdown need a bit of scrolling. There’s no proper app, just the site — slight shame but you asked.

    Right, that’s me. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, works. If anyone even now does the maths on paper, try it — it’s saved me a load of arguments with the bookie.

  5. So — have been messing about with this thing for about a few months now and I keep coming back, reckon I’d write something up since someone asked me last week. Am UK based, mostly stick to footie and the horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.

    What got me on it was actually a bit daft — I could never get my head round what an each way return actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I’d guess and get a shock. Now I type the odds in before every slip, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I’m on daily — you drop in the price and your stake and it shows the return instantly, fractions or decimals. It also handles the multiples — trebles returns, a lucky 15, yankees, honestly that’s where I always lose track. Have a go yourself, it lives at accumulator odds checker and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    What actually changed how I bet was the geekier extras. The probability calculator and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly staking tool — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are terrifying. Dutching calculator is decent for when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. Its layout feels pretty plain — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it works but the bigger tables make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but worth saying.

    So yeah. Free, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. Anyone who even now works out returns on a calculator app, give it a go — saved me a load of arguments with the bookie.

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